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Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:33 am ]
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Man!!! I just jointed my set of quilted sapele I got from Zootman a while back. After jointing I put a wash coat of zpoxy on it. WOWser!! this is the most beau-tee-ful carmel color wood I have ever seen. and man is the quilt somthing. I have be ignoring this set till I finished the Tanner Burnes commision. This weekend was time to get started on it. I planed on using Redwood for the top but may change my mind on that. I am going to use Snakewood binding. have not settled on the pufling or rosette yet.

Anyway the ZOOTMAN struck again MichaelP38649.7365046296
Author:  John How [ Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:37 am ]
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Your discription does not do this wood justice, we need pictures!!!
Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:38 am ]
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How about pics when I get the guitar finished.MichaelP38649.7386226852
Author:  John How [ Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:50 am ]
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To quote somebody
[QUOTE=Somebody] THUUUUUUBBBBBBBBBB [/QUOTE]   
Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:54 am ]
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[QUOTE=John How] To quote somebody
[QUOTE=Somebody] THUUUUUUBBBBBBBBBB [/QUOTE]   [/QUOTE]

To quote my hero (from Spy Vs Spy)

HEheheheheheheheheh
Author:  Brock Poling [ Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:21 am ]
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I don't know. Redwood sounds like a great combo... check out that guitar on the Allied Weekly Specials page. That looks awesome (but that might be a mahogany top... it is hard to tell). But I think redwood would look great.

:-)
Author:  Pwoolson [ Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:51 am ]
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Michael, I agree with Brock that Redwood would be good coice. I really like the mahogany/cedar combination and since this is essentially mahogany, I chose cedar for a top. I think it was pretty successful.



And if I may be so bold as to give you a bit of advice for the purfling scheme...keep it simple. Let that back/side wood speak without competing with a lot of shell. Pwoolson38649.8698842593
Author:  BlueSpirit [ Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:31 pm ]
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Michael

Spy vs Spy. Oh what a MAD-cap duo those two were.
I agree with Paul, the eyes should stay on the "ZOOT".


Paul,
That is one nice guitar. I really like the binding. Makes the sides and top jump out. Especially the sides. Whew it pretty.
Author:  JJ Donohue [ Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:58 am ]
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Paul...that's gorgeous! And I like the non-competing binding scheme.

Soooo...how did you guys handle the side bending?
Author:  Pwoolson [ Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:02 am ]
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VERRRRRRY carefully. I treated it like mahogany then at the same time treated like highly flamed maple. Make sure your slats are very tight to the wood as you are bending it. It doesn't want to break as much as it wants to let the sections of figure lift up. So if you keep it supported by the slats that should help that problem.
Author:  L. Presnall [ Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:15 am ]
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So, if figure lifts up a bit, what's the best remedy? I had a little come up last night right around the horn of a venetian cutaway...CA? White LMI? Epoxy?
Author:  Don Williams [ Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:17 am ]
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I wish that Woolson guy would stop posting pics of his guitars. I'm getting an inferiority complex!
Author:  Pwoolson [ Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:20 am ]
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I had a little lift up and just CA glued it down. Looked like poo at first but then when I sanded the CA off the surface you couldn't see the flaw at all.
Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:21 am ]
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This was to be the display guitar that was going to my cousins music shop but we have re-thought the tone woods for that one. It will have a bunch of abalone and pearl on it but this one will be mine to show and play. No pearl except my peghead logo and signature (maybe, if I can cut it to fit the 12th fret) I will use Snakewood binding with wbw purfling I am thinking. I plan on binding the fretboard and peg head with snakewood with thin wbw purfling lines. I may do some pearl position markers but no vine. Rosette is still up in the air. I hate simple 3 ring rosettes. I may use drops of the sapele to make a divided major ring rosette.
Author:  Pwoolson [ Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:21 am ]
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Don, that's what this is all about, making you feel bad.
Author:  John How [ Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:46 am ]
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Here's my version of Sapelle and Snakewood
Author:  L. Presnall [ Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:02 am ]
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John, wrap that thing up and send it to Collierville and I'll keep it warm for ya!
Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:16 am ]
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[QUOTE=John How] Here's my version of Sapelle and Snakewood
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John, got any pics showing the purfling?
Author:  John How [ Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:21 am ]
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I may have some at home, I'll check tonight.
Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:28 am ]
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[QUOTE=John How] I may have some at home, I'll check tonight.[/QUOTE]

It looks like it may be just one simple black line, is this right?
Author:  John How [ Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:50 am ]
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Actually thinking back now (ouch), I used a Pau ablam and a quite thick (.020-.030") snakewood purfling. It might have been the snakewood Binding, .010 black, .020 snakewood,ablam, .020 snakewood.
Sorry, brain cells maxed out. I know it has ablam and snakewood purfs though.

The rosette is the Sapelle with ablam in the center and snakewood inner and outer rings.

I'll check my picture files. I don't have the guitar anymore though so I can't take any new ones.
Author:  Terry Stowell [ Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:24 am ]
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Hey! Stop poking me in the eye and scaring me with that stuff!
Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:27 am ]
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[QUOTE=Terry Stowell] Hey! Stop poking me in the eye and scaring me with that stuff![/QUOTE]

Only one cure for eye poked with BobC's quilted Sapele. That being: get you some. Bob has it on sale

Kinda like the hair of the dog, don't ya know MichaelP38650.6032986111
Author:  Steve Kinnaird [ Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:30 am ]
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After seeing those two beautiful guitars, anyone else want to just quit?

Steve
Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:02 am ]
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I think this is the binding and perfling scheme I will use

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